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Featured Producer of the Month Doc Watson


Marv

What up Doc!

Doc

What up Fam o!

Marv

Constantly grinding homie. Let’s start off by telling us who Doc C.L.E. Watson

Doc

No doubt fam..well C.L.E was the old label name, Now C.L.E is a Parent company. The label is now RMG. I started C.L.E back in 2004 because I felt called to do Christian Hip Hop.Like many others I was still growing and was very immature as a Christian, God broke me down to build me back up.During that time I found out what community was and started to get closer to God. I am basically a Producer that had a vision to create a label that could serve as a tool to be used by our leaders to Disciple the youth. Im a believer, a husband and of course a brother to my friends..

Marv

No doubt can you tell the readers what RMG stands for?

Doc

Oh yeah..lol..mos def. Reflection Music Group. Basically, we want to be a Reflection of Jesus. We strive to grow constantly fam…real talk.

Marv

Ok ok. How long have been you saved,married, kids?

Doc

Man, I have been married about 7 years now..no children, we are trying..relying on the Lord to do His will in that area. I wanted to add my wife is a soldier bro..She is really a rock in my life. I have been really blessed with a women who understands how this music stuff can be.

Marv

Yeah mang its good to have a wife’s that supports us in this music biz.

How long have you been producing?

Doc

I know you know fam..I think you and Wifey are cooking up a project up right? As far as producing..man been making beats and all since 2000-2001. I started working in Christian Hip Hop around 2004, but I really didint get locked into it until about 2006.

Marv

Yeah mang wifey got a album coming at the end of August. I see you have been in it for a minute.

Let me ask u something.

Marv

Do you think it was natural to start a label being a producer? Dudes ask me all the time because of me pushing wifey’s joint is she my artist or am I starting a label and I be like no lol. Was it almost a giving for you?

Doc

Man to be honest it was the last thing I wanted to do..It is difficult and very selfless. When I was secular one of the reasons I did so well was because of my Pride. I was off the hinges with my pride fam. I felt God wanted me to do this, better yet I was led into it, I think my main point is God used my gift to break me and to help me learn to become selfless. So in the beginning I think it was almost a miracle that I was able to accomplish anything because it was always centered around me. During Redemption and for the last 2 or 3 years I have grown to understand more of what God’s will is..so the short answer is that it was Gods will I do this..I would have failed by now..lol..sorry for the long answer bro..but I had to give you the long version..lol

Marv

No problem lol! Its something how a lot musicians really deal with this pride issue. To bad many cats want really admit it.

What goes into building or start a label?

Doc

I feel you bro. What helped me was Romans 2, Romans 7.. community and accountability. Letting people into my life to help me deal with it. Pro and I have a lot of talks fam.

Doc

What goes into label building? Man first off….GOD. I know I know, thats a cliche thing to say but I mean it. If God is in the center it really changes the way we look at things. It cant be about getting money, or about being the next gimmick..I see this in Christian hip hop and it looks silly to me. I have to be real and say I was on the get money thing back in the day because thats all I knew. I dont care about how real I get with you even right now because this is for the purpose of growth and discipleship. People need to realize being on a label takes planning, work, relationship building, budget, and goals. Its not about being a rapper doing it all by yourself and blowing up into being the next 116 rapper or whomever you think is hot. Its about how to serve God with you gift and how to use it to be a tool for others so that people can grow from your testimony or craft. If our hearts are not in the right place..the label will fail.

Marv

Yeah mang I think there is a misconception when it comes to starting a label and I think dudes get into the comparing deal towards one another. Your heart definitely got to be right.

Is it hard getting distribution for a label?

Doc

Well..if your stuff is popping like that distribution is not too hard, but getting a deal when the time is right is the real key. Since 2007 C.L.E/R.M.G has been offered distribution roughly 7 times. We just pretty much accepted our first deal..maybe..not sure yet. The real thing to ask yourself is..am I ready for it. It cost to have distribution and you need to be selling records, doing shows, and have an online presence before you even want to think of going there. Matter of fact if people arent asking..then don’t bother. Its too much of a risk. My advice is to stay digital until everything is ready. You will know when the time is right. Trust God..and go hard.

Marv

I agree fam I tell people all the time the grind has to be official to make an impact. And the Internet makes it easy to do you just gotta do it lol.

Politics in the music. Whats your take on them?

Doc

What do you mean homey? lol

Marv

Do you think its hard for “average Joe the producer” lol, get connected with some artists? Do you think artists reach back and help other producer’s unless they know them?

Doc

You just asked the million dollar question! LOL. You know what bro, I know there are people that feel they are over looked and don’t get a chance. I know there are rappers that think there are no Christian Producers out there also. It can be difficult to get into any genre of music when we first get into it, but Christian can be even more difficult. The reason are really hard to see for many.

At first I did what any producer would do with a secular mind. I worked hard and used networking to get closer to people. That worked to some degree but my heart wasn’t right so I fell off eventually because dudes didn’t really feel me. Instead of sitting me down and talking to me they kind of acted like I was an outsider, I know a lot of people go through this like I did. Later I had a change of heard and didn’t really care about getting on because my focus was serving the Lord any way I could…for that reason I believe a lot of things changed for me. I think it can be tough, but I think if your heart is in the right place and you are humble enough to listen and learn..things will work out.

Marv

Yeah dude I remember when I couldn’t give a beat away lol.

Marv

God had to humble me too. but afterwards He showed me His grace and favor to work with a lot of artists buuuuttt, on the real if I didn’t work on the projects I did, it would have been kinda hard fam!

Doc

LOL..yeah bro. I know what you mean fam. God is faithful bro..as long as cats know its not their will but his. He stretches us man..he really does. You do good work..but you grew as a Christian and God was able to use you.

I’m glad he did though..we got two banging joints from you on the album….lol!

Marv

Lol! I ain’t gon front though, when I met Pro in Nashville I thought he played me with the wrong email, but come to find out I typed in the wrong email lol! But its a HONOR to be working with you guys.

Any last remarks shot outs etc.

Doc

Man Its an honor for us bro..man all I want to say to everyone is pray for us to stay focused on Christ…I pray for you and your Wife Marv, that the Lord keep using you up fam. Thanks for the opportunity to chop it up brother…

Me

Thank you home boi.

Doc

I’m out bro..time to go to the bed..lol

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